tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3975311211849239826.post7749907814083508672..comments2023-08-19T06:31:20.395-06:00Comments on Jeff's Thoughts and Stories: This is How Liberty DiesJeffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10357398682419756851noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3975311211849239826.post-45183437012715360092009-10-25T09:36:27.624-06:002009-10-25T09:36:27.624-06:00I appreciated your comments as well as all others ...I appreciated your comments as well as all others who posted. I do have fears of things becoming so government run and people becoming so dependent on the government for everything. Obama seems to think he has an endless pocket that he keeps giving out of. It's like putting your finger in the hole of a dike and pretending that will be enough to hold the dam, but eventually it will all burst. I am glad we have people in history to learn from. History is the best educator. Keep studying the lives of those great men and women who lived through times that we can only be proud of their accomplishments.Marilynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07225525158114828242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3975311211849239826.post-46548320168496754262009-10-23T15:45:18.637-06:002009-10-23T15:45:18.637-06:00Ooooh, great post. Can I just say something about ...Ooooh, great post. Can I just say something about socialized medicine?<br /><br />I love it. I live in Canada and my babies have cost me $112 a month. My weird moles have cost me $112 a month. My swine flu questions have cost our family of four $112 a month. You get the idea.<br /><br />Socialized medicine is great for the small stuff. Not so great for the big things, even if you live in a big city. See, because we choose to live in a small town, 12 hrs to Vancouver, we get to pay for own way to receive medical help for the big stuff. Specialized doctors are flown in every once in awhile to treat some of the big stuff. Not to mention the months/years of waiting on a list wondering if you'll die before being cured. If you have money $$ you can help yourself to the front of the big stuff line. Thus, canceling out the reason for Socialized medicine in the first place.<br /><br />There are a few problems with making people share everyone's health problems. Soon, like England, certain lifestyles will be illegal because socialized health won't cover it. <br /><br />Ex: ladders are no longer allowed on work sites because too many get hurt and cost the system money. <br /><br />A little ridiculous, isn't it?<br /><br />Living in Utah for 25 years, I never had health coverage. Too expensive for what it would buy. I just gambled that nothing serious would happen to me.<br /><br />Both systems have pros and cons, but I will say that I'm glad to be living in Canada and using their system. <br /><br />Damned either way.Karahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13383158599622489734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3975311211849239826.post-28833438169003961342009-10-19T00:42:52.001-06:002009-10-19T00:42:52.001-06:00To Saleinaenachiya,
Part 3
Finally, I'll just ...To Saleinaenachiya,<br />Part 3<br />Finally, I'll just say what was said to me years ago. I invite you to disagree with me. But please read enough books that you understand why you believe what you believe. As Thomas Jefferson said, "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be"Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10357398682419756851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3975311211849239826.post-15248975593791580042009-10-18T22:45:48.003-06:002009-10-18T22:45:48.003-06:00To Saleinaenachiya,
Part 2
Have you forgotten that...To Saleinaenachiya,<br />Part 2<br /><b>Have you forgotten that in order for people to have freedom we must fight for it?</b><br />Absolutely! I hope it doesn't come to that though. For now, I will honor the democratic process and contact my representative, who happens to be Jason Chaffetz. He and I see eye to eye on this issue, so he will adequately represent me.<br /><br /><br /><b>making people pay for a newspaper, making them buy American cars? are you kidding me?</b><br />No, I'm not kidding, they already used your money and gave it to those companies, but you didn't get a product in return. The idea of them forcing you to buy those products seems ludicrous doesn't it? Why is it any different for them to force you to buy health care?<br /><br /><br /><b>Freedom....the very thing your trying to defend is lost when you are FORCED or its BANNED to do something?</b><br />Well, yes. Any time our ability to act of ourselves is taken away, that is freedom being taken away.<br /><br /><b>how is it fair that a little girl can't afford surgery because of a family she didn't choose to be born into?</b><br />That's not fair. I'll admit that. But first let me talk about the role of government. And then I'll talk about a solution to your proposed problem.<br /><br />What is the role of government? Let's simplify the idea of government. Let's imagine a small town where people live. They discover that occasionally people from outside their town come in and take their things away from them. They hire a sheriff to protect them and their property. Then one day a little girl in the town gets very sick. She needs surgery but she can't afford it. The people of the town decide it's unjust that this girl can't afford it. They tell the sheriff that he should go to the richest man in town and force him to pay for this little girl's surgery. They conclude that he was much too rich anyway and it wasn't fair. <br /><br />It sounds horrible that a sheriff would rob a member of the town. Yet, our government that we have hired to protect us is not any different from the sheriff of that town. But, somehow it becomes okay to tell the rich people that they should give more money to support those in need and make it more fair.<br /><br />I'm not saying the little girl shouldn't be helped. I'm saying it's not my right or anyone else's to demand that those who have more give to those who are in need.<br /><br />So what is my solution? I believe that people are inherently good, and if they have the opportunity they will give to private organizations. If we were to cut taxes and eliminate the inefficient charity programs of the government, private charities would be much more prevalent and would have more funds. I personally give to my church as well as other charitable organizations because I do believe that people should be helped. I just don't believe that is the role of government.Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10357398682419756851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3975311211849239826.post-41571801289563639672009-10-18T22:45:18.705-06:002009-10-18T22:45:18.705-06:00To Saleinaenachiya,
Part 1
First, thank you for ...To Saleinaenachiya, <br />Part 1<br />First, thank you for sharing your opinion. It excites me to know that a person can come to my blog and see both sides of the story.<br /><br />I'd like to respond to your remarks, individually. I have bolded all quotes from you so as to differentiate your questions and my answers. To all other readers, I apologize for this lengthy comment but I wanted to respond to all of it.<br /><br />Your questions:<br /><b>Why did this happen in the first place?</b><br />I assume that question means, "Why are they trying to pass a health care bill in the first place?" So I will answer that question. You and I both agree that there is need for health care reform. I personally think that the health insurance industry is one large collusion where they are slowly increasing their profit margins. I think there needs to be more transparency there. We could talk for a long time about other options, but my blog was already long enough.<br /><br /><b>Why are we as a country so unwilling to change with the times?</b><br />Personally, I think our country is very willing to change. There have been good changes since our founding. For example, slavery was abolished and women are now allowed to vote. Those are huge changes that are good. However, there have been many changes which I think are bad. I personally believe the brave men who founded our country would be ready to call for another revolution because our government has grown to massive proportions and our liberties have shrunk.<br /><br /><b>Why do we think of ourselves before our children s' children?</b><br />I don't know about you, but I don't want to be sitting with a grandchild and have him ask me the question, "Grandpa, where were you when America stopped being a free country? Why didn't you stop the socialists? Didn't anyone see it coming?" I am most certainly thinking of my children's children when I voice my opinion about Liberty.<br /><br /><b>Or why do you think this bill is bad? personally?</b> <br />My personal opinion is that forcing people to buy any product is not a power given to Congress by the Constitution and that frankly scares me. <br /><br />You said I was a coward for hiding behind other people's words. Yes, I used quotes from other people and there's a reason for that. I attended a seminar once where the speaker was speaking about some political subjects. In his introduction the speaker said, "I invite you to disagree with me. But, I encourage you to read enough books that you understand why." That experience changed my life, I realized that we are all born with opinion, but it's important to seek truth by studying the lives and minds of those smarter than us.<br /><br />I will openly admit that those who I quoted in this post, (Benjamin Disraeli, a former prime minister of Great Britain; Samuel Adams, founding father of this country; The framers of The United States Constitution) are all people smarter than me. So yes, I chose to use their words to illustrate my point. But, understand, I am not hiding behind their words. The opinions expressed in this blog are most definitely my own. I am constantly reading and studying in order to justify my opinions and form new ones.<br /><br />You say that this ultimately comes down to my religious beliefs. I have stated that I read many books to arrive at my opinions, and you are correct that among those books are books that I believe to be scripture. Ultimately, however, this particular opinion is rooted much more strongly in the Constitution than in scripture or religious affiliation.Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10357398682419756851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3975311211849239826.post-52132276179307940212009-10-18T22:32:33.052-06:002009-10-18T22:32:33.052-06:00I don't like bondage.
P.S. It's safe for ...I don't like bondage.<br /><br />P.S. It's safe for you to assume that if I don't comment within a couple days of you posting, I didn't see that you posted. So you have permission to inform me.Kaylihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06418947533297193343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3975311211849239826.post-91212330684238914322009-10-18T15:48:44.291-06:002009-10-18T15:48:44.291-06:00Personally; although your blog has some general po...Personally; although your blog has some general points it is your opinion. So I will share with you my opinion....<br /><br />why did this happen in the first place?<br />Why are we as a country so unwilling to change with the times? <br />Why do we think of ourselves before our children s' children?<br /><br />Or why do you think this bill is bad? personally? <br /><br /> You have hidden behind remarks people have made in history, during a different time. Did you think our founding fathers realized where the US would go in 200 years? <br /><br />Your blog is about people who have said things, and yet I don't see anything about what you think about it. (which is a cowardly move people make.) <br /><br />Have you forgotten that in order for people to have freedom we must fight for it? we must be open minded...making people pay for a newspaper, making them buy American cars? are you kidding me? Freedom....the very thing your trying to defend is lost when you are FORCED or its BANNED to do something? <br /><br />Health care is needed for everyone. it should be available to EVERYONE. Without this reform you should just say that the new policy for everyone is to "not get sick." <br /><br />Everyone must be granted equal opportunity to receive help. And that is how systems work. You need everything in a system to work, sure maybe you don't want it, but those people are also paying to help you, and your family...think about those people who can't afford it? people don't get to choose their families so how is it fair that a little girl can't afford surgery because of a family she didn't choose to be born into? so why don't you keep your narrow minded, right-sided, stupid religious beliefs (which this ultimately comes down too) and actually write a blog that has your actual opinion in it, not words to hide behind.Saleinaenachiyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13374437174897621160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3975311211849239826.post-34472125280206782712009-10-17T18:09:09.527-06:002009-10-17T18:09:09.527-06:00I just came upon an interesting quote from Ronald ...I just came upon an interesting quote from Ronald Reagan that I thought fit with the subject of this post. If I had found it before writing this post I probably would have included it.<br /><br />"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free."<br />- Ronald ReaganJeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10357398682419756851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3975311211849239826.post-41301585972107251632009-10-17T15:07:37.737-06:002009-10-17T15:07:37.737-06:00I feel really good about this post. I am glad that...I feel really good about this post. I am glad that somebody is standing up for truth and righteousness.Jared W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09091250369286400515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3975311211849239826.post-60058481231735651382009-10-17T12:08:29.464-06:002009-10-17T12:08:29.464-06:00Well said. This needs to appear on an editorial p...Well said. This needs to appear on an editorial page. Definitely would get people thinking.Carolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00829183071166838587noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3975311211849239826.post-46149825470004685972009-10-16T16:36:49.106-06:002009-10-16T16:36:49.106-06:00You are so smart! I enjoyed your post, even if you...You are so smart! I enjoyed your post, even if you thought it was boring. Thanks for sharing.Mellenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12524333863646572210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3975311211849239826.post-26006234410774389372009-10-16T12:21:22.764-06:002009-10-16T12:21:22.764-06:00Well said!Well said!Nathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18363077317910481712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3975311211849239826.post-62742363475140045392009-10-15T09:00:01.616-06:002009-10-15T09:00:01.616-06:00Here, Here! It's good to hear an educated opi...Here, Here! It's good to hear an educated opinion about this! I definitely need to learn more about the bill.glarcyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09530303003176092234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3975311211849239826.post-67214354151938392582009-10-14T22:10:04.216-06:002009-10-14T22:10:04.216-06:00Thank you for expressing your thoughts. I also be...Thank you for expressing your thoughts. I also believe we all should be aware of the things that will impact our lives. Or country should be run by the people for the people, not just some of the people. There will always be differing sides to all issues, but the important thing is we all should be informed and active in our political system.Robynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14215365331722185746noreply@blogger.com